This is my chance, I want it now!
читать дальшеWe had twice the opportunity to interview actresses ( in the frame of their respective bands) and every time the same constant : an extreme wariness towards journalists, certainly due to sour, hard-to-take criticism and to injuries difficult to heal. It [wariness] showed in different ways, a suffocating management which controls the minimal question and stands on your side during the interview : this was the case of Jada Pinkett (Wicked Wisdom) or, more subtly, Juliette Lewis, who avoided some questions by answering the previous one, so she could analyse it and see that there was no danger.
Jared Leto confirms the tendency with a completely different way of reacting, the most handicapping one, when you're face to face with him. He enjoys making things unstable in order to control them. Everything happens: seduction with funny and a bit ambiguous statements, filming the entire interview and asking for close-ups of you, even eating during the interview. Although we met hundreds of musicians, spending some time with him is a unique, weird but at the same time enriching and...disconcerting experience.
Throughout this interview we'll see him changing mood several times: from the beginning, when he dominated the situation, to its turning upside down, when he judges our questions 'negative', to tranquillity, when he understands that we don't want to 'hurt' him. And in the end he hugs you, smiling, and asks you if he should shave or not, or dye his hair black and cut it. Certainly, Jared does nothing like other people. Do we have to remind you that he seducted a lot of people with ABL? Because of the resumption of their French tour, 30th May in Bercy with Linkin Park and 31st May at Elysée Montmartre, we went to the first gig, Glasgow, ABC, in order to know something more about this band who's about to conquer it all.
At first, I would like to talk about your first steps into the music. What are your earliest memories of it?
J.L.: Our mother often took us to concerts. Music was so loud and the club was lit up with red lights and that scared us a little. My first concert was in a sort of arena, I don't remember whose concert was that.
S.L.: Janis Joplin, I think. (Janis Joplin died before Jared's birth)
Really?
S.L.: Yes, or something like that. I also remember some festivals where we ran everywhere like little savages, imitating aeroplanes.
T.M.: As a kid, I remember that my father, a big fan of Shadows, gave us their album at every Christmas.
J.L.: (looking at Tomo) Who gave you the permission to talk? Nevermind.
When did you become aware that you wanted to be musicians?
S.L.: I don't remember a precise moment where I thought that I wanted to become a musician. That's something I had to do, so I worked harder and harder with my music. Then, natural evolution allowed me to found 30 Seconds to Mars with my brother.
J.L.: Tomo?
T.M.: (visibly always offended) Pass my turn... (we insist) To me, it was almost the same thing...
J.L.: Nevermind!
T.M.: I'm leaving (Tomo stands up and goes away, we hold his arm)
J.L.: I'm sorry, I had to do it (everyone is laughing their arse off). He practiced a lot and he had a lot of technical talent.
T.M.: Recently, yes, I set myself the goal to become the best guitarist in the universe. This risks to take all my life and more, but that's not bad. Maybe I won't be the best guitarist in this life but in the next one.
J.L.: The guy has dreams!
How did you start out with your band and what is the vision that you had of it at the beginning?
J.L.: We've always had the desire to do something special and unique that would change the usual musical experiences. I think that we answered to all those people who identify themselves with a unique esthetic. We are following this path since the beginning. It's a journey but I don't know if we will ever reach our destination. I guess the journey itself is the destination.
How much time will you carry on with this journey?
J.L.: Until they take my blood out of my veins and air out of my lungs. And till they take my eyes out of my veins...
S.L.: Your orbits! (laughs)
J.L.: Yes, orbits! But in French this is gonna sound more poetic...
Did you have to make sacrifices to become musicians? Which ones?
J.L.: I think that when you're pursuing the path of creativity you look for an exchange when it comes to face challenges and make sacrifices. But, in the end, you are rewarded. So, there's a balance and this leads us to the natural cycle of life. When you persist and overcome the obstacles, the reward is more gratifying because you have a higher regard for yourself.
At the beginning, you've been criticized a lot. People said that you sounded like A Perfect Circle too much or that your band wouldn't last. Did such criticism influence you in some way?
J.L.: Never heard about it before.
Perhaps you don't read magazines...
J.L.: Thank you for telling us. When you're on scene and you decide to make your life, your work, your art, public, there are people who like you and others who don't. You have to accept it and move forward. Sometimes it's disappointing and frustrating and you have to fight. That's the ambiance, you have to try hard repeatedly and accept it. Good comes with evil. There are thousands of people who buy our cds and one person in a magazine who doesn't like us. Which one do you choose? I don't like all the things that other people like.
How did you approach your second album? Did you want to take a sort of revenge for those sour critiques?
J.L.: Revenge? I don't think it would worth it. At first you feel better, but that's temporary. We tried to make the best record that we could, a record we would be proud of. That's what we did and we're pleased with the result.
S.L.: We have the opportunity to do worldwide tours which allow us to share this result with people.
And what do you think of the fans who prefer your first album to the second one?
J.L.: I don't know. You're asking us a lot of negative questions, will the entire interview be like that?
It's a question that's been asked on the Rock One forum.
J.L.: I think that's a bit of a cliché. According to a lot of people the first record of a band will always be the best. I love the first Smashing Pumpkins album, but I also love 'Siamese Dreams', even if a lot of people say that the first album is the best. Other people say that Nirvana's 'Bleach' is better than 'Nevermind', which was more mainstream and more appreciated. That's how it goes for narrow-minded people.
In my opinion, most of the time, I think that people prefer the first album because it's through it that they discover a band...
J.L.: ...Of course! It's special and different, but you know what? Our first album is...I hope that every record that we will make in the future will be different from the others. And maybe our new record will be less appreciated by people who bought the second one. Who knows? Our first record is really special, original and different, but who do we have to listen to? The thousands of people who bought our first album or the six billions...err, six millions who didn't like it? In the end, that isn't important because no one can say who's right or wrong. I like the first album. I think that it is very interesting, different and we're really proud of it. We like to play it live but now we're focused on telling another story, that of ABL, and that's how an album is judged. It's like having children: even if you love one more than the other, you'll never admit it.
Shannon, the last time I interviewed you I noticed that you are very protective towards your brother...
J.L.: ...In fact, Shannon is very protective towards me.
S.L.: (speaking to me) Be careful with what you're gonna say!
Why are you so protective? What do you want to protect him from?
S.L.: Why not? That's a natural fraternal reaction. I'm simply protecting my family. He's a brilliant artist who works hard to protect me as well.
Do you think you are stronger than him?
J.L.: I think we balance each other.
In which domain does the fact of being in the same band give you security?
S.L.: That's one of the best things in the world, one of the best journeys I've ever made. It's a continuous learning and I wouldn't see myself doing something different now, in no other circumstances.
And to you, Tomo, is that difficult to find your place in a band where there's such an understanding between two people?
T.M.: Who said that it's complicated? That's not difficult at all. It's even very simple to be in a band with them. We understand each other very well. I know what my place is and that's fine, that is all. We love playing together onstage and making music together. There's really nothing complicated with that.
When I saw you play in Paris, I really had the impression of seeing a band and not just 2 members, like some people think.
T.M.: Thank you.
Jared, I find your lyrics often chaotic and inspired. Do you think that there's a sort of duality in your personality?
J.L.: Yes. I think that when you're working on something, such as a record, a book or a painting, there are dynamics that don't let you repeat the same things again and again. You create a duality, a sort of chaos of joy, suffering and life. These are the things that we write about and we record these human experiences. That's where the word 'record' comes from, that's its real meaning. That's what we did with ABL...We recorded these moments, these journeys, these experiences inside the group. Periods of time passing. If experiences were a mirror, music would be the means to go behind it in order to observe things from another perspective. And that's interesting to be able to do that.
There's also a lot of ambiguity in your lyrics, and this allows us to analyse them in many different ways. Where does your inspiration come from?
J.L.: From life, trips, exchanges with people, books that I've read and operas that I've seen. I use a lot of different sources.
And when you write your lyrics, do you have any particular images in your mind or they appear while you're writing?
J.L.: It's a combination of the two, it depends. Sometimes you write about images and things that you truly have in your mind. Other times you make a comment on society or a personal insight. It all depends on which one priority will be given. All the songs are different. You start writing and gradually you find out the meaning of the words. For this album, I often started writing from an idea.
In your opinion, does the film industry inspire more than music?
J.L.: There's a totally different approach. It's like comparing the jobs of chemist and surgeon. Completely different.
You like filming your videos in the shape of short movies. Besides, you ask your fans to choose the next single between 'A beautiful lie' and 'The fantasy'. What will be the story of your next video?
J.L.: (visibly still stuck in the previous question). I don't know yet. I was thinking maybe something about France, something unique, but now that you told me so many negative things about what people think of us, I really don't know...
I'm just doing my job...
J.L.: I know that this is your job, but maybe now I'm changing my mind, I'm not so sure anymore. Let me ask you a question: why did you ask so many questions about this subject?
I choose my questions in relation to what I find relevant, those which can cause a reaction. They aren't so negative, they're analytical...
J.L.: Perhaps the translation from French to English created this negative impact.
Are you thinking about releasing a dvd in the near future? What will be its concept?
J.L.: I don't think so. It'd be amazing but now we are too busy. We thought about it but we have to find the time. We don't want to make a classic dvd with a group filming a concert and sell it in order to make money. So, nothing at this very moment, but we clearly want to make one. The concert in Paris last time was really amazing. We had a lot of fun and we still talk about it. We've loved this city since the beginning. Even our first album had a special connection with France and we think that some people over there understood this connection more than in other countries. That's surely the reason why the concert was so spectacular. We'll come back as openers for Linkin Park and we'll take advantage of our spare time the next day for a second show. I suggested it to the guys 'cause we had such a blast, last time, that we wanted to do it again. Actually we should rest but we're playing instead. At the Elysée Montmartre. I hope there will be a lot of energy. Are there seats?
No, there aren't.
Leto brothers together: Good!
J.L.: The first concert in Paris was excellent, the highest point of the European tour, so we're expecting a lot from this next one.
S.L.: Maybe the highest point of this entire year.
J.L.: Yes, the concert of the year! It was a really special night for us. We can't wait to come back. We would like to do something very unique and different.
Can you say something to your fans?
J.L.: Merci. Merci beaucoup.
S.L.: Gracias. We love you.
J.L.: Te quiero. Je t'aime. The fans are the most important element of 30stm. We form a very different and unique group. We aren't like the other bands. There are people who believe, who go deeper in what we do and they're the source of our inspiration and we're encouraged by this relationship. We are very grateful.
If you could ask them a question, what would it be?
J.L.: I'd ask them to come and see us in concert.
S.L.: We can regurarly ask them questions, we see them everytime we play!
J.L.: I appreciate the conversations that we can have with them. We have such a strong connection with what we do.
Do you know any French artists?
J.L.: Air, Daft Punk, Serge Gainsbourg and Jean-Michel Jarre.
I heard that when you went to Canal+, some fans jumped on you and you got scared but when you're onstage, you're often on the crowd.
J.L.: ...You only read bad press. But what did you see?
Some fans told me...
J.L.: But you said that you saw something else, right?
Yes. At the concert, you were with them on the edge of the stage!
J.L.: Exactly!
S.L.: So, that's true. You saw it with your own eyes, nevermind who wrote that. You saw the truth.
J.L.: At Canal+, there were some people who got a little crazy and there were paparazzis. Those weren't fans. I think one of them pushed my brother and the security came over but I wasn't even involved. You certainly read it on the tabloids. In my opinion that isn't the right place to look for infos. It's based on falsities, lies, gossip and rumours.
In fact, I'm here to restore the truth.
J.L.: Yes, and you saw the truth, so you have to tell them the truth. That's the most admirable thing to do. We have a very close and strong relationship with our fans. Thank you. Thank you so much
Jared Leto confirms the tendency with a completely different way of reacting, the most handicapping one, when you're face to face with him. He enjoys making things unstable in order to control them. Everything happens: seduction with funny and a bit ambiguous statements, filming the entire interview and asking for close-ups of you, even eating during the interview. Although we met hundreds of musicians, spending some time with him is a unique, weird but at the same time enriching and...disconcerting experience.
Throughout this interview we'll see him changing mood several times: from the beginning, when he dominated the situation, to its turning upside down, when he judges our questions 'negative', to tranquillity, when he understands that we don't want to 'hurt' him. And in the end he hugs you, smiling, and asks you if he should shave or not, or dye his hair black and cut it. Certainly, Jared does nothing like other people. Do we have to remind you that he seducted a lot of people with ABL? Because of the resumption of their French tour, 30th May in Bercy with Linkin Park and 31st May at Elysée Montmartre, we went to the first gig, Glasgow, ABC, in order to know something more about this band who's about to conquer it all.
At first, I would like to talk about your first steps into the music. What are your earliest memories of it?
J.L.: Our mother often took us to concerts. Music was so loud and the club was lit up with red lights and that scared us a little. My first concert was in a sort of arena, I don't remember whose concert was that.
S.L.: Janis Joplin, I think. (Janis Joplin died before Jared's birth)
Really?
S.L.: Yes, or something like that. I also remember some festivals where we ran everywhere like little savages, imitating aeroplanes.
T.M.: As a kid, I remember that my father, a big fan of Shadows, gave us their album at every Christmas.
J.L.: (looking at Tomo) Who gave you the permission to talk? Nevermind.
When did you become aware that you wanted to be musicians?
S.L.: I don't remember a precise moment where I thought that I wanted to become a musician. That's something I had to do, so I worked harder and harder with my music. Then, natural evolution allowed me to found 30 Seconds to Mars with my brother.
J.L.: Tomo?
T.M.: (visibly always offended) Pass my turn... (we insist) To me, it was almost the same thing...
J.L.: Nevermind!
T.M.: I'm leaving (Tomo stands up and goes away, we hold his arm)
J.L.: I'm sorry, I had to do it (everyone is laughing their arse off). He practiced a lot and he had a lot of technical talent.
T.M.: Recently, yes, I set myself the goal to become the best guitarist in the universe. This risks to take all my life and more, but that's not bad. Maybe I won't be the best guitarist in this life but in the next one.
J.L.: The guy has dreams!
How did you start out with your band and what is the vision that you had of it at the beginning?
J.L.: We've always had the desire to do something special and unique that would change the usual musical experiences. I think that we answered to all those people who identify themselves with a unique esthetic. We are following this path since the beginning. It's a journey but I don't know if we will ever reach our destination. I guess the journey itself is the destination.
How much time will you carry on with this journey?
J.L.: Until they take my blood out of my veins and air out of my lungs. And till they take my eyes out of my veins...
S.L.: Your orbits! (laughs)
J.L.: Yes, orbits! But in French this is gonna sound more poetic...
Did you have to make sacrifices to become musicians? Which ones?
J.L.: I think that when you're pursuing the path of creativity you look for an exchange when it comes to face challenges and make sacrifices. But, in the end, you are rewarded. So, there's a balance and this leads us to the natural cycle of life. When you persist and overcome the obstacles, the reward is more gratifying because you have a higher regard for yourself.
At the beginning, you've been criticized a lot. People said that you sounded like A Perfect Circle too much or that your band wouldn't last. Did such criticism influence you in some way?
J.L.: Never heard about it before.
Perhaps you don't read magazines...
J.L.: Thank you for telling us. When you're on scene and you decide to make your life, your work, your art, public, there are people who like you and others who don't. You have to accept it and move forward. Sometimes it's disappointing and frustrating and you have to fight. That's the ambiance, you have to try hard repeatedly and accept it. Good comes with evil. There are thousands of people who buy our cds and one person in a magazine who doesn't like us. Which one do you choose? I don't like all the things that other people like.
How did you approach your second album? Did you want to take a sort of revenge for those sour critiques?
J.L.: Revenge? I don't think it would worth it. At first you feel better, but that's temporary. We tried to make the best record that we could, a record we would be proud of. That's what we did and we're pleased with the result.
S.L.: We have the opportunity to do worldwide tours which allow us to share this result with people.
And what do you think of the fans who prefer your first album to the second one?
J.L.: I don't know. You're asking us a lot of negative questions, will the entire interview be like that?
It's a question that's been asked on the Rock One forum.
J.L.: I think that's a bit of a cliché. According to a lot of people the first record of a band will always be the best. I love the first Smashing Pumpkins album, but I also love 'Siamese Dreams', even if a lot of people say that the first album is the best. Other people say that Nirvana's 'Bleach' is better than 'Nevermind', which was more mainstream and more appreciated. That's how it goes for narrow-minded people.
In my opinion, most of the time, I think that people prefer the first album because it's through it that they discover a band...
J.L.: ...Of course! It's special and different, but you know what? Our first album is...I hope that every record that we will make in the future will be different from the others. And maybe our new record will be less appreciated by people who bought the second one. Who knows? Our first record is really special, original and different, but who do we have to listen to? The thousands of people who bought our first album or the six billions...err, six millions who didn't like it? In the end, that isn't important because no one can say who's right or wrong. I like the first album. I think that it is very interesting, different and we're really proud of it. We like to play it live but now we're focused on telling another story, that of ABL, and that's how an album is judged. It's like having children: even if you love one more than the other, you'll never admit it.
Shannon, the last time I interviewed you I noticed that you are very protective towards your brother...
J.L.: ...In fact, Shannon is very protective towards me.
S.L.: (speaking to me) Be careful with what you're gonna say!
Why are you so protective? What do you want to protect him from?
S.L.: Why not? That's a natural fraternal reaction. I'm simply protecting my family. He's a brilliant artist who works hard to protect me as well.
Do you think you are stronger than him?
J.L.: I think we balance each other.
In which domain does the fact of being in the same band give you security?
S.L.: That's one of the best things in the world, one of the best journeys I've ever made. It's a continuous learning and I wouldn't see myself doing something different now, in no other circumstances.
And to you, Tomo, is that difficult to find your place in a band where there's such an understanding between two people?
T.M.: Who said that it's complicated? That's not difficult at all. It's even very simple to be in a band with them. We understand each other very well. I know what my place is and that's fine, that is all. We love playing together onstage and making music together. There's really nothing complicated with that.
When I saw you play in Paris, I really had the impression of seeing a band and not just 2 members, like some people think.
T.M.: Thank you.
Jared, I find your lyrics often chaotic and inspired. Do you think that there's a sort of duality in your personality?
J.L.: Yes. I think that when you're working on something, such as a record, a book or a painting, there are dynamics that don't let you repeat the same things again and again. You create a duality, a sort of chaos of joy, suffering and life. These are the things that we write about and we record these human experiences. That's where the word 'record' comes from, that's its real meaning. That's what we did with ABL...We recorded these moments, these journeys, these experiences inside the group. Periods of time passing. If experiences were a mirror, music would be the means to go behind it in order to observe things from another perspective. And that's interesting to be able to do that.
There's also a lot of ambiguity in your lyrics, and this allows us to analyse them in many different ways. Where does your inspiration come from?
J.L.: From life, trips, exchanges with people, books that I've read and operas that I've seen. I use a lot of different sources.
And when you write your lyrics, do you have any particular images in your mind or they appear while you're writing?
J.L.: It's a combination of the two, it depends. Sometimes you write about images and things that you truly have in your mind. Other times you make a comment on society or a personal insight. It all depends on which one priority will be given. All the songs are different. You start writing and gradually you find out the meaning of the words. For this album, I often started writing from an idea.
In your opinion, does the film industry inspire more than music?
J.L.: There's a totally different approach. It's like comparing the jobs of chemist and surgeon. Completely different.
You like filming your videos in the shape of short movies. Besides, you ask your fans to choose the next single between 'A beautiful lie' and 'The fantasy'. What will be the story of your next video?
J.L.: (visibly still stuck in the previous question). I don't know yet. I was thinking maybe something about France, something unique, but now that you told me so many negative things about what people think of us, I really don't know...
I'm just doing my job...
J.L.: I know that this is your job, but maybe now I'm changing my mind, I'm not so sure anymore. Let me ask you a question: why did you ask so many questions about this subject?
I choose my questions in relation to what I find relevant, those which can cause a reaction. They aren't so negative, they're analytical...
J.L.: Perhaps the translation from French to English created this negative impact.
Are you thinking about releasing a dvd in the near future? What will be its concept?
J.L.: I don't think so. It'd be amazing but now we are too busy. We thought about it but we have to find the time. We don't want to make a classic dvd with a group filming a concert and sell it in order to make money. So, nothing at this very moment, but we clearly want to make one. The concert in Paris last time was really amazing. We had a lot of fun and we still talk about it. We've loved this city since the beginning. Even our first album had a special connection with France and we think that some people over there understood this connection more than in other countries. That's surely the reason why the concert was so spectacular. We'll come back as openers for Linkin Park and we'll take advantage of our spare time the next day for a second show. I suggested it to the guys 'cause we had such a blast, last time, that we wanted to do it again. Actually we should rest but we're playing instead. At the Elysée Montmartre. I hope there will be a lot of energy. Are there seats?
No, there aren't.
Leto brothers together: Good!
J.L.: The first concert in Paris was excellent, the highest point of the European tour, so we're expecting a lot from this next one.
S.L.: Maybe the highest point of this entire year.
J.L.: Yes, the concert of the year! It was a really special night for us. We can't wait to come back. We would like to do something very unique and different.
Can you say something to your fans?
J.L.: Merci. Merci beaucoup.
S.L.: Gracias. We love you.
J.L.: Te quiero. Je t'aime. The fans are the most important element of 30stm. We form a very different and unique group. We aren't like the other bands. There are people who believe, who go deeper in what we do and they're the source of our inspiration and we're encouraged by this relationship. We are very grateful.
If you could ask them a question, what would it be?
J.L.: I'd ask them to come and see us in concert.
S.L.: We can regurarly ask them questions, we see them everytime we play!
J.L.: I appreciate the conversations that we can have with them. We have such a strong connection with what we do.
Do you know any French artists?
J.L.: Air, Daft Punk, Serge Gainsbourg and Jean-Michel Jarre.
I heard that when you went to Canal+, some fans jumped on you and you got scared but when you're onstage, you're often on the crowd.
J.L.: ...You only read bad press. But what did you see?
Some fans told me...
J.L.: But you said that you saw something else, right?
Yes. At the concert, you were with them on the edge of the stage!
J.L.: Exactly!
S.L.: So, that's true. You saw it with your own eyes, nevermind who wrote that. You saw the truth.
J.L.: At Canal+, there were some people who got a little crazy and there were paparazzis. Those weren't fans. I think one of them pushed my brother and the security came over but I wasn't even involved. You certainly read it on the tabloids. In my opinion that isn't the right place to look for infos. It's based on falsities, lies, gossip and rumours.
In fact, I'm here to restore the truth.
J.L.: Yes, and you saw the truth, so you have to tell them the truth. That's the most admirable thing to do. We have a very close and strong relationship with our fans. Thank you. Thank you so much
Но все равно спасибо ))))
Перевод в ближайшее время пообещала сделать ~Clandestine~, так что как только - так сразу
~Misteriya~
Спасибо!
Спасибо, просто супер-интервью!!!!
Jared is a pain in the azz, oh, he really is
я все понимаю. Но я просто решила запостить новую информацию, которая появилась на форуме. Интервью было на французском изначально, его перевели на инглиш, так что, при желании, можно перевести и на русский.